Hi! :-)

tonights show topic...

http://truthbrigade.org/smf/index.php/topic,3258.0.html

what a dumb song...lol

lvoe steely dan

good evening everyone

Ello ello

shalom

hey Babe.

I recovered from my flu, since I am a man, flu nearly killed me

yeah *sigh*

me 3

Whenever someone is brought-up on charges concerning marijuana, the injured party is not another man or woman, it's the State. So the only way....

...these defacto laws apply to men and women, is if we assume the fictitious role of Person (as legally defined).

:/

You will never see a legislation state that any law applies to either a man or man...collectively known as We The People

It only appies to fictitious Persons, Individuals, Residents..etc.

Soon when we all have computer chips in our brains, there's no need for drugs :D we can have funky viruses

that the new film?

yeah

cool, yeah, I got to see that

I'm all for discussin these legislations, but we have to realize the legalese language being used by these politicians to establish jurisdiction

In law, the words Person, Individual, Resident, Tax payer, Employee, U.S. Citizen, and State Citizen mean something totally different than what we....

in the general public understand these words to mean.

the problem is that everyone isn't like me, if they was, we'd have no drug problems

I'd get me a cloner and get busy changing the world

Therefore if we fail to question and challenge these definitions and simply assume that every legislated act applies to everyone, our silence...

will be considered our consent.

The use of Hemp was never lawfully determined to be illegal as it concerns men or women. It was only legally prohibited as it relates to Persons

I'll keep not smoking then, I'll live shorter

Christie ask him is there any truth lowering blood sugar

Under the Constitution, a man or woman has the absolute right to ingest whatever they so choose, whoever, those under the assumed title of Person...

I think they should be allowed to use drugs in the comfort of their own home

Are restricted from the use of marijuana by statute.

That all depends on how you define "they"

everyone, as long as they do it in their home

now, since some drugs stay in your system for a while, it could be troublesome

yo

Just gimme the trees and make we smoke it yo (smoke it yo!)

Men and women under the Constitution have always had such a right, but Persons and Individuals (as legally defined) have given up this right

Sounds hard to define who is who then?

aaaaar urwt.orls

Personally I don't like drugs, and I don't like to be around people who are using it either

It's quite easy, all you have to do is actually look at the Statute itself and demand to know the lawful definitions of any declarative words...

what other states can you legally grow it for medical purposes?

And then compare those imterpretations to the language within the Constitution.

You can grow Hemp in any state, however, such growth is prohibited in every corporate STATE, so it depends on classification and jurisdiction

it's a talk show, keep talking dude :P

It depends upon if you live in say, "california state" or the defacto State of California, the latter being the defacto jurisdiction

the best thing dope ever produced was Cheech and Chong, I love those movies

i have friends in texas , arkansas and missouri- who do we contact regarding decriminalizing mary jane?

If you've ever appeared in court as the Defendant, you could see that the Plaintiff was the State of..., but that another man or woman....

Therefore, the assumption before the court is that you somehow injured the state, and this can only be done if you're subject to its jurisdiction.

am I the only one that lost audio?

Didz I juzt go deff or is der no soundz?

Oh now I heard someone

yeah dead

I hear you Russ

I lost it also, it's intermittent...although I do hear a mic

I hear one dude though; perhaps... well, sing us a song while we wait?

I hear you both now Christie and Russ

now you're back

I heard Lionel Richie say' hello...is it me you're looking for?

ya

screw Barney Frank it's a travesty he got into public office in the 1st place

yup...affirmative!

he hasn't done anything of real value for his constiuency the entire time he's been in office

It doesn't bother me that he's gay

it's just that he's like all other policticians .. a power grabber

Does that come as some surprise?

nope

what? lmao

Frank fights for rights and the constitution?? lmao how in the hell could that be

yeah in this case it is Christie

The entire government has been usurped, so there's not much one PERSON can do.

Hello Everyone!

Hi

How can someone even claim that a law is unconstitutional if they haven't even read the statute or act that they've assumed applies to them?

a lier could do it

Hey John

or if he's lucky and guess right

which means a chicken can do it too

Oh Wow the Computers and more room show earlier with bill dengler was hillarious

Chris riddle would not get off the show and bill kept calling him a brat

I've heard that hemp fuel can be run in flex fuel vehicles

neat, John

99% of all complaints in the patriot movement- with respect to law -are based upon assumptions rather than hard facts and definitions.

And if the leaders aren't questioning these definitons, those that follow them won't either.

The legalize pot and smash the black market at the same time

further proof the feds are pushers too

or realists

since they'd earn money from it

nah they're pushers plain and simple

JohnB, as it pertains to men and women, marijuana was never made illegal. It was only established that legal fictions or Persons were prohibited

if they can't kill it, they can try and control it instead

There was a big weed farm here in Memphis that got busted .. they took the guys home away under imminent domain THEN BURNED HIS HOUSE DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!

If anyone would simply read the statute, it would clearly state that: all Persons mustn't...etc, it won't say that men or women cannot.

DOWN !!!!!!!!!!!

they didn't arrest the guy just stole his house and then made him sit acroos the street while the cops did the deed

all cuz he grew pot for himself

weird, and this is fact or what people say happened?

They got busted because of their legal status as Persons, and United States citizens subject to the jurisdiction of the District of Columbia

dude it happened in my hometown

No matter the town, all they're concerned with is legal status and jurisdiction.

a dude in my hometown claims he know who murdered a politician

All I'm saying that it shouldn't have happened

no it shouldn't, let's hope it's not what really happened

you calling me a liar?

no

That depends on your point of view- if they failed to establish that they were men and women under common law, then those agents were left to assume..

it is what really happened

that before them stood legal fictions, otherwise known as Persons, who had given up their God given rights in exchange for privileges

it just sound too weird to me

but it may well be true

what I said was though that unless we was there, we don't really know all there is to know

people have gotten their cars stolen here in Memphis by local police/govt. using imminent domain

We cannot complain about the law if we have yet to understand their legalese tricks

like hell

I'll complain all I want

and then some

we don't need to know legalese to know when a law is unfair and unjust

Imminent domain ONLY applies to legal fictions- Persons, and those found to be acting as the fiduciary thereof

Christie maybe I should move out of the city to the outskirts

hehe

You're speaking from a moral perspective, however, in law...all that matters is contract: what was or wasn't signed, and legal status.

you wanna grow dope? lol

no but I'll be damned if my crap gets stolen from me by corrupt police and govt.

If you want to understand common law, visit: state-citizen.org

a guy by the name of Richard James McDonald has audio's that explain this process in detail

corrupt is crap, and I guess they be lazy, so yeah, perhaps moving out of town may well work haha

There is definitely corrupt police in out midst, however, you cannot simply claim that all police are corrupt, when in fact, it might be that...

you simply don't fully understand the right that youve given up.

it's probably both true

everyone should grow hemp!

what for?

The exception never justifies the rule, and so by rule, if we are to collectively affect change, we must at least understand how to read statutes

cow shit is also good for the soil

let's all farm cows

I took some today along with my modifilan

test

wtf?

let's fight for the right to own a cow!

oh

I learn something every day by talking to you americanos

out of dope? smoke your jacket

Why aren't we allowed to have cows? Private farmers around me here have them

I love cows, they feel sorry for us, because they think WE are trapped behind the fence, and you know what...

I think the cows are right :)

I see from hemp4all.com has a link where you can buy hemp seeds. But one place sells 40 different strains. Someone help me choose which strain tobuy

oops I mean time4hemp.com

BRB

thank you ;-)

My dying wish would be to see Christie pose for play boy guys let me get a 1 if you agree

Yall niggas are gay!

what's a nigga?

In nyc when they bust drug dealers they sieze the money and use it for governement services

like it might go to the ymca

Hey...........I made it. Christie?

It's not used fo taxes, taxation is simply a cover for their need to take money back out of circulation as fast as they print it into ciculation

I'm a guest

Link: http://www.4204all.com/marijuanaseeds4.html

hehe, dying wish? ooooh what the heck, it could well be worth it

1

seeds --- >> http://www.4204all.com/marijuanaseeds4.html

let me come back in....

That;s okay, thank you for asking. I'll just buy a few different seeds and experiment! (wink)

back

How can we have a discussion about Hemp if Casper Leitch isn't aware that it only applies to those that fall under the classification of PERSON?

Hemp?

Keith......you in here?

CHristie find Sublime song smoke 2 joints

Hey Susie :-) Wow

Hey Christie..........I have a guestion..........

Oh, okay.

I'm at work

;)

Guess who this is Susie and Christie?! hahaha

LOL....Keith.....

Susie you had a question about hemp ?

Christie, that one guy who said he was a 'chief,' were his initials C.C.?

No, about something else.

Yeah, but the criminlization does not legally apply to men or women, it applies to legal fictions or PESONS

my county here like your area has tons of growers I bet

heya truth

ok......thank you.

talkshow... even if you totally close down the browser it keeps playing the sound, it's magic

test

wow, major chat lag for me

I'm talking to this guy whose background was very similar and I got suspicious

Susie, red the email.. glad that the obama law won't effect the ccw

That's my point, not just concerning marijuana, ALL STATUTES only apply to legal fictions, whereas, the Constitution under We The People, applies to..

men and women.

sane baground as who ?

Keith, no, that has nothing to do with licenses. Only regular folks.

ok cool

Raisis, are you mincing words?

So here we are discussing the ciminalization of a plant, that never applied to men and woman, but since it's assumed as such, the State has jurisdicti

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNjwbitJzi0&feature=related

Subiesisters, I cannot answer generalizations, if you'd care to specify..please do so.

I had some hemp nut spread it was pretty good, like peanut butter

Keith, Hemp is a source of MANY good things....I believe paper and clothing.

Subiesisters, what did you mean by mincing words?

raisis, the difference of stating 'men or women' or Persons.

ok

yepp Susie, I'll wear hemp clothes and use it all if I find it

i agree

Subiesister, are you aware that there is a legal distiction between man/women compared to a legal Person?

I'm calling.........

now if I can find a book on processing it I'll grow it and be self-sufficient

cool, maybe we can get some good buys on seeds

The 13th Amendment clealy states that no one shall be made subject to involuntary servitude, therefore the State cannot dictate such performance...

I want to grow computer parts, but the buggers refuse to take... not enough sun I guess

lol Winter

however, they can offer it as a privilege under the tile of Person, and if you assume this title, you are subject to the jurisdition of its laws

I wish I could call, but I can make calls from work

NEVER plead guilty to a lesser charge......

raisismith can you relate the 13th ammendment and how it applys to hemp?

brb

lol

and you'd never be bored; "man I'm bored farming this hemp...." they can just smoke some of it

correct, but the questions is, does Casper Leitch understand the legal distiction between a man and woman as opposed to a legal Person?

I am a legal person...

There is not ONE statute that applies to either a man or woman, EVERY statute applies to either a Person, Individual, Resident- all as legally defined

rasis, is a man a person?

legally you can be defined as a legal Person, but by birth, you're either a man or woman

Raisis, okay

a man, is lawfully defined as a man

LOL........I can bring home the bacon.....

Rasis, okay.

However, a man can be legally defined as a Person, if he chooses to be.

ok

If he so chooses, then the statue of marijuana prohibition then applies

so what happened? why didn't it come true?

If he wished to be defined as simply a man, then there is not ONE statute that applies to him

These statutes are all based upon assumptions rather than actually checking the legal definitions

Raisis, I'm sure the 'person' was used because people knew a person was either male or female.

As opposed to a bird or a dog.

Those within the law society knew that the people at large would assume such meaning would apply no matter the juisdiction, and this is the problem

why no zillion dollar hemp farms?

wait a minute here, we can live an entire life EATING hemp?

Raisis, not sure about that.

If you are in court, the word Person legally does not mean the same thing as undestood in common

Christie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmExAiCcaPk

All you have to do is check the 13th Amendment

Rassi, so once arrested, you are a person, right?

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, excewpt as a punishment for crime ....

whereof the party shall have been duly convincted, shall exist...

within the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

nah, then you're a crook and have no rights

It clearly states that no one shall be made subject to involuntary servitude, therefore, no Statuteor Act can compel anothe mans performance

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

XIII

So we're talking slaves here?

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Correct, involuntary servitude unless a crime 'has' been committed, not prior

XIII Amendment

I didn't see 'person'

I see 'party

damn this chat is lagging on me

Meaning, that cannot legislate a statute, to then compel another man's involuntary performance

I never said the word Person would be found under the 13th, I merely mentioned that Amendment to clarify point of involuntary servitude

ok

Under blacks law 'party' is legally defined as: those persons mutually engaged in contract

ok

lol...re-legalized it? It was never made illegal as it petains to men and women

People are allowed to grow for their own use, if they then decides to distribute it as a form of commerce, this would then involve the State

unless you know the right politicians that accept bribes lol

She woman speaking is assuming that the State has the right to determine individual behavior, they only have jurisdiction over legal fictions

Just as one has the right to travel as opposed to driving

Can't I'm at work

yeah, the travel issue is the same as the right to grow Hemp

It's based upon jurisdiction and definitions

offices only understand statutes, they were never taught the significance of the Constitution.

Hey Louie :)

officers I meant to say

There he goes with that re-legalize term, if we undestand the distiction between a man and a Person, we wouldn't have to wory about e-legalization

This is what I mean, eveything starts with the actual language of the statute and undestanding its definitions, because if we simply assume things...

everything will apply

How can we expect a government to re-legalize something that doesn't even apply to men or women? Theirr intent is to control us all, not help us

LOL.......hung up....got bumped.

Keith, you still here?

I did...............

I got booted twice

I think so.........no problem.

Rassis, you did?

two times

Whew.....

had to log back in

Raiss, yep. Know the feeling.

I wish Susie would've stayed in the chatroom, because I wanted to see in all her years on the force, was she aware of the difference between...

driving and traveling

Raissis, I'm Susie

cool...so, are you aware of the difference?

Well, I don't much get into differences in words.......an attorney would.

hello everyone!

:~)

Attorneys...............

Russ?

YEAH

finally

In short, all men and women have to common law right to travel in their private equipment, whereas those that drive are subject to the statutes that..

goven this pivilege.

G21!

ya, in the truck, its loud sorry

sorry, my letter 'r' keeps getting stuck

raissi, that may be true but it doesn't do much good to argue that in court. Not really a big enough battle to fight about.

Hey Rus....yep, its Susie

hey sis!

I WAS Subie...........but I had to sign in again.

I think......oh gee, don't know....

lol

It all depends, if you actually know you rights, it is a issue, but if you do not....of course it wouldn't be as important in you compliance

Raissis, I encourage everyone one accused of a crime to research it. Know the laws.

People don't realize a lot of things. When their car can/can't be searched, when they can refuse to show their I.D.

exactly....including the growing of Hemp- the law does not prohibit men and women, but rather artificial Persons from such usage.

Rasiss, well, still, arguing that point isn't a good idea. Better to try and get the law changed.

Raissis, you know, if you argue the point about 'men and women' you could also say that 'men and women' have no protection under the law either.

First of all, most Police Dept.'s are private corpoations that are publiclly listed on Dun & Bradstreet

Raissis, all police departments are governmental. Corrections is sometimes private.

Raissis, yes they are listed but look at what is listed. Nothing.

Actually I know of a man that has won numerous cases in this very same fashion, he goes by the name Richard James McDonald

and his website is state-citizen.org

Raissis, what is his name?

Richard?

yup

Good for him.

I have an idea.......why don't we go down to Mexico, grow the hemp, make the clothes, gasoline......and then bring it across the southern border?

So in understanding the definitions of the words in the language of the statute that prorhibits Hemp growth, we would realize that it neve applied...

to men or women, but rathe atificial Persons, so why would men and women approach governmemt to change a law that never applied to them?

Raissis, I think this is more than about words. Don't forget...laws are up for intrepretation.

Raissis, then we could say hemp is artificial too. That nothing is real.

Raissis, it isn't about a law that never was...it is about a law that has been for a long time. You have to work within the law.

Laws can be interpreted with respect to the scope of it's reach, but with respect to jurisdicition the definition is clear, it does not...

apply to men or women.

Hey Christy http://crispe.org

Raissis, then why don't attorneys use those 'words' to get their clients off?

We miss not seeing you here in San Diego

You are failing to appreciate who the law applies to in the first place, you ae explaining something that does not apply to men or women

because they would lose thei careers in the process

Raissis, well, we disagree and that is okay.

There is a lot more injustice going on in the court system and 'words' are not the main issue.

Attorney's litigate statutes, because by then, it's a foregone conclusion that the Defendant is subject to the courts jurisdiction.

Keith?

yes?

Raissis, mind me asking what your education is?

Keith.......lol

Words are the primary issue, because thoughts and intent is communicated based upon the english languaget

I am educated under the practice of common sense and reason

whatta ley vatos

Raisis, and how did you do that?

define 'that'?

kinda reminding me of living in Chula Wanna (Roach City)

How did you get common sense and reason?

infested with disgusting illegals and their coch roaches

cheech and chong

I was born with it, and over time, I've learned to use it in all areas of life

Oh, I'm thinking they don't know any better..........they think different than us.

raisis, okay.

of course with the help of others along the way

And WHO is the Federal Reserve?

of course.

such as Eric WhoRU Williams

You can find him also on Talkshoe.com

Raisis, don't know him.

ok

Go to the main page and search WhoRU

ok

his language.....

He teaches common sense techniques on how to deal with law

I think he should have a few 'bleeps'....lol

raisis, okay

He assumes nothing and defines every single word

good

and therefore he is never subject to any defacto judisdiction

Is Casper still there?

ok

sorry...my 'r' keeps getting stuck

lol raisis

I think it's a popcorn kernal stuck between the keys...grrr

raisis..........lol. I did that spilling coffee on the keyboard.

Do you know why the government first introduced public schools?

Raisis, I don't know if public schools are even legal.

Why?

To indoctrinate the population and make sure no one understood their rights

Also to establish a collective form of group-think

Well, I know that schools USED to be to raise citizens. Today it is to raise socialists.

I have no problem with American culture assimilation in schools. Not what we have today.

where everyone would then repeat the very same slogans and belief systems taught to them by the school system

raisis, that is called assimilation.

Love of country........good idea.

As will all privileges being promoted by governments- it always solicited as a huge benefit, but over time, is when we begin to see its true colors

with I meant to say

raisis, in the last 40 years, everything has changed. You over 40?

so true

:~)

dumbing down the public is a national pasttime

nope...I'm 37, here is my myspace: myspace.com/raissmith

crispe, and who dumbed it down? The media maybe?

sorry...it's myspace.com/raisismith

raisis, okay. Still, pretty old

yeah....I've seen a few things, such as 9/11 being an inside job

raisismith, what is your myspace again

myspace.com/raisismith

check my blog, cool subjects

IT IS LAWFUL

http://myspace.com/crispeinfo

We have to understand the law

just did a friend request with you

that means understand EVERY word

We cause ourselves more harm by assuming based upon what we SEE, is true

As I said before, it's no different that one right to travel..government can contol or compel performance, but they can offer it as a privilege

can't I meant to say

I'm going to your myspace right now crispe

Sugar cane is in central Florida and the government is closing those fields to make room for homes.

I know..............

Well we still have the alternative of Stevia

CREDIT tracks people.............DOWN WITH CREDIT

And for those that don't want to starch of white or brown rice, a great substitute is Quinoa which can be found at WholeFoods

They are Cooking the Frogs

'the' I meant to say...typing too fast.

have to run, goodnight all

You can order hemp powder by the pound on eBay

Christy, Lary will be on your show Thursday. What is the topic?

:)

good subject.....

Question to speaker. How do we get rid of our SSNs?

Yeah...that's right up mu alley

jurisdiction

heck n

Good guest.

The social secuity number was never yours, so as soon as you decide no longer to claim it, it no longer applies to you.

So Crispe, you're fighting in family courts or parental rights?

'for' I meant to say.

I agree with that comment

what comment?

I drive like a champ stoned

lol

nah I just woke up lol

Some people function better on weed

I get the munchies

Hes right because you get so locked into the TUNES you miss a FEW exits

and I also get paranoid

Ever since I started weed ive never been sick

Pills are what kill you

Ever since I began, I can't seem to get anything done....lol

No way LUCIFER is going to allow WEED to be legal because it makes too much sense

except that I did gain 15lbs....I guess as a result of the munchies

Once you smoke all the time you get so used to it that you barely even feel it like the first time

Ive never hallucinated

that with eveything, the human body adapts accordingly

I plan to grow my own plants when the USA goes to hell so I can barter it for food and water

grains, grains, grains

Everyone will need some type of resource worth value

some great grains are: quinoa, amaranth, kelp...etc

Make a garden and throw a couple weed plants in it

nobody will notice

esp up north in Arizona where I live

good night guys

what about that black helicopter hovering in front of my balcony...won't they notice?

good night everyone and thank you all so much be blessed it is a choice

scene fom 1984....lol

later dudes and dudets

Night Russ and Christie...take care till tom

night raisis

seee yyaaaa

sheepdog you have a good night!

George Noorey is now on in a hour

hope his show is good tonight

Good song

who sings it?

poker face

nice thx

http://pokerface.com

music for the times

Night guys!

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